Autor: DogZy - Ožujak 30, 2014, 14:37:57
Pa da počnemo ;D
Peugeot returns to Dakar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ10HiVp-rE#ws)
Vozači će biti, po svemu sudeći, Carlos Sainz te Cyril Despres.
Video analysis: UK motorsport's new track-limits rule - National news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112242)
CCTV to police track limits at Brands Hatch - National news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113119)
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WHY WAS IT INTRODUCED?
The argument for its introduction is that drivers were abusing the old rule, and there was a lack of consistency at different circuits because of an ambiguous definition of what counted as the track.
"The rule is a massive step forward," said MSV chief Jonathan Palmer.
"The FIA rule officially made it OK for drivers to use as much grass or surface beyond the white lines as they could."
MSA chairman Alan Gow added: "It's the fairest [option]. You've got to draw the line somewhere on the limit of the track."
GREY AREAS
What will constitute "justifiable reason"? What about an incident in a heated, wheel-to-wheel battle in which a driver - having already received a warning - runs wide, but does not gain an advantage?
What if the infringement is almost invisible to the naked eye?
Such innocuous incidents will be thrust firmly into the limelight this season. And they could become the catalyst for a far greater, long-running controversy.
The change will put pressure on drivers to adjust approaches honed over many seasons, and on officials to carefully delineate between clear breaches of the rule and genuine mistakes.
It will be fascinating to see how this plays out when UK racing gets back underway in a few months' time.
Pogledajte 30-sekundni video da skužite o kakvoj idiotariji se radi. fpalm1
Autor: Thergothon - Ožujak 30, 2014, 14:49:40
Mislio sam da su takve stvari moguće samo u F1 nakon vijećanja senilnih staraca koji nemaju pametnijeg posla, pa prcaju vozače i publiku u zdrav mozak.
Autor: DogZy - Travanj 06, 2014, 22:57:56
Malo o GP2, Vandoorne je kandidat za F1 sljedeću godinu.
Autor: CROKiXi - Travanj 15, 2014, 10:55:39
(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/884485_395017930638358_151946879568780503_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31.0-8/10264216_395017950638356_1623343177058540283_o.jpg)
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Autor: DogZy - Travanj 15, 2014, 18:19:38
Pikes Peak, WTCC, Dakar... dobro ide francuzima sm1jeh
Autor: DogZy - Travanj 17, 2014, 11:59:41
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Proteklog vikenda Martin Kodrić je u konkurenciji od 32 vozača osvojio odlično 12. mjesto u Formuli Renault 2.0 NEC u Monzi.
Martin je prvi puta nastupio u Monzi, a za upoznavanje staze je imao samo dva slobodna treninga. Nakon slobodnih treninga u petak su održane i kvalifikacije. Jedini hrvatski predstavnik je zauzeo 26. i 21. mjesto.
U subotnjoj utrci je vozio fantastično. Sa 26. mjesta se probio do 12. i ostvario zapažen rezultat. U nedjelju je startao s 21. mjesta i još jednom vozio fantastično, no dva kruga prije kraja utrke došlo je do kontakta s Amwegom uslijed kojega je Martin završio svoj nastup izvan staze. Broj odvoženih krugova je bio dostatan za ulazak u rezultate, ali nažalost umjesto za 12. mjesto, samo za 28. mjesto.
U prvoj utrci je slavio Švicarac Deletraz ispred Japanca Sasahare i Francuza Pizzitole. Drugu utrku je dobio Švicarac Jörg ispred sunarodnjaka Deletraza i Nizozemca Schothorsta.
Martin je svojim nastupom zadovoljan. U jakoj konkurenciji i na nepoznatoj stazi vozio je bez straha i probijao se prema naprijed iz kruga u krug. Svaka utrka donosi novo, vrijedno iskustvo. Slijedeći Martinov nastup je u Formuli Renault 2.0 ALPS od 8. do 11. svibnja u francuskom Pau.
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10177892_723508497701390_3496947059543166607_n.jpg)
Autor: DogZy - Svibanj 30, 2014, 23:24:23
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Glad to be able to catch up again with this project on a different forum!
So in essence the car was running a regeneration system like La Ferrari is running?
Which begs the question with only charging under braking how long could one run the car at full throttle before the batteries were totally drained. I would imagine its an unlikely scenario unless one were to run the car on hugely long air strip.
Odgovor
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Think about it this way. There is no free lunch. KERS recaptures Kinetic Energy that would otherwise be turned into heat energy to brake the car. When racing there is a lot of braking and we were able to recapture about 50 seconds of 50 HP lap after lap. On the road there is not enough braking to recapture so P1/918/ and La Ferrari all use petrol HP to charge their hybrid batteries. The no free lunch part is that when using petrol HP to produce electrical charge there is less overall HP to drive the car so all petrol recharging systems try to charge only when not under full throttle, While P1/918/La Ferrari could pre-charge and run a hot lap they can NOT run at FULL HP lap after lap. On the road we've engineered our system to use petrol HP to recharge when full HP isn't needed but on the track we can switch back from the cockpit to race KERS.
So far no other manufacturer has won one of these.
([url]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--N99ee6Pq--/711468438585571138.jpg[/url])
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Very interesting, in the sense that the current crop of hyper cars are actually quite "compromised" in the way they are using the battery packs (using HP to charge the packs) but maybe its a compromise that is appropriate for a road car and is probably one of the most singular reasons why none of them could be raced without significant redevelopment.
Aside from the fact of course that all road cars are fundamentally compromised to make them suitable for the average owners on the average road.
Vrlo zanimljivo, a napisano od strane mozga tog projekta, Jima Glickenhousea, američkog investicijskog giganta.
Radi se o ovoj beštiji od auta (http://p45c.com/)
Autor: DogZy - Srpanj 03, 2014, 16:33:13
Dropbox - FE070 - Rimac Automobili to supply Concept_One supercar for Formula E.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/s/h64egikl8widwhj/FE070%20-%20%20Rimac%20Automobili%20to%20supply%20Concept_One%20supercar%20for%20Formula%20E.pdf)
EDIT: Po naslovu bih rekao da je prilično veliko. ;D
Autor: DogZy - Listopad 01, 2014, 21:13:10
Autor: Wulf - Listopad 18, 2014, 14:28:37
Evo neke novosti.... ako se moze gledati tako :)
Bilo bi super da prejde u WEC i onda sa Webberom nek vozi.. onda bi bio jos veci gust gledat
Autor: DogZy - Listopad 18, 2014, 14:57:33
Autor: Wulf - Listopad 18, 2014, 17:32:34
Autor: the_prodigy - Listopad 18, 2014, 18:11:09
Autor: Boss302 - Listopad 26, 2014, 10:31:48
Sent from my GT-S5830i using Tapatalk 2
Autor: DogZy - Listopad 26, 2014, 11:18:49
Autor: Iceman - Listopad 26, 2014, 11:24:01
Autor: Wulf - Listopad 28, 2014, 10:37:50
Naime, Ferrari ima na piku LMP1, ali smo vidjeli nešto slično, ali sa LaFerrariem u igri. Ovo su sad novi renderi lmp1 bolida.
Moram priznati da mi se jako sviđa i da mi je čak ljepši
(http://i.imgur.com/fO8xp3x.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3eu5o0E.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y0wW1M1.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/papJJj7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PZEOqgQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SsVwTOM.jpg)
Autor: DogZy - Studeni 12, 2014, 19:13:45
Autor: DogZy - Prosinac 14, 2014, 08:59:46
Prati neko Race of champions? šofe1
Kristensen dere sve živo kuul
Race of Champions: Tom Kristensen, Petter Solberg win Nations Cup - Other news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117140)
The Nordic team of Tom Kristensen and Petter Solberg won the Race of Champions Nations Cup in Barbados, defeating the British entry in the final.
The battle came down to a deciding race in the best-of-three final using Ariel Atoms around a special two-lane configuration of the Bushy Park circuit, with Kristensen leading home David Coulthard by almost three seconds. Coulthard was in the hunt until the final corner, when he ran wide into the gravel, handing Kristensen a clear run to the chequered flag.
Kristensen had earlier won the opening heat of the final, beating Susie Wolff with both driving the Audi R8 LMS. Coulthard then levelled the tie by beating World Rallycross champion Solberg in a race using the Volkswagen Polo RX by over two seconds, setting up his head-to-head with Kristensen. The Nordic team reached the final by defeating French pairing Romain Grosjean and Esteban Ocon in the previous round.
Nema mu kraja ave1 ave1
Autor: speedy56 - Prosinac 14, 2014, 12:49:02
Jose Maria "Pechito" Lopez Rolls Stadium Super Truck Race Of Champions Barbados 2014 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrVzn_pfWP8)
Grosjean ga je odlično zadržao (na videu)
Zanima me dali ja slagal takve face i u Wecu
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4wfWqtCYAE7HJK.jpg:large)
Danas ja glavna stvar u 17h po našem, na uk Motorstv ima prijenos
Autor: speedy56 - Prosinac 14, 2014, 20:50:01
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B41wvE5IMAAILng.jpg)
Zaslužio je, jedino ga je Kristensen jučer 1 dobio, ostalo je pobijedio sve
U finalu je dobio malog Wehrleina (Dtm fura)
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Prosinac 18, 2014, 19:45:49
Dok su bili na Porscheu su mi bili uber, Audi im nikak nije stajal nakon toga. Mclaren u drugu ruku - bomba.
Flying Lizard Motorsports: TUDOR United Sportscar Championship Racing Team (http://www.lizardms.com/news/releases/2014/dec-18.html)
Autor: DogZy - Prosinac 18, 2014, 20:11:25
Autor: Thergothon - Prosinac 18, 2014, 21:17:54
Sjećam se tog Flying Lizarda iz Forze 4, kad si ti radio slike s njim, ili su bile forumske utrke pa sam zapamtio zeleni 997 mk1. Siguran sam da će 650S biti dobar.
;D
FM4 CSR Online: Thergothon (Flying Lizard) VS. ManTheRamparts (Team Falken) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEUlD1t2ks&list=UUd7KUFyzRguDCvCNxdyFzag)
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Prosinac 24, 2014, 15:03:30
Autor: DogZy - Prosinac 24, 2014, 15:24:09
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 02, 2015, 23:25:14
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10444005_10204796077516540_5756028914282823154_n.jpg?oh=cea8cb7bd2b746fe9cd6cefe9b1a2c13&oe=552F3257)
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 03, 2015, 20:28:26
Ja po starome - vamos Carlos šofe1 , ako on ranije završi kao lani onda bih htio da Peterhansel dobi
čudna situacija za mene, svi moji igrači u kolima koja ne volim (Sainz u Peugeotu, Alonso u Hondi, Loeb u Citroenu... cer1njo)
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Schumiju je danas rođendan, 46.
Mogu si mislit kroz šta su ti ljudi prošli zadnjih godinu dana, od samog incidenta do onih tikvana kaj se oblače u svečenike, kradu podatke...
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 09, 2015, 11:07:51
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B63Z_6xIIAAmT3S.png)
Kolko sam skužio iz španjolskoih twitova, ovaj kamen ih je izbacio
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B62-FdBCYAE_X_H.jpg)
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 09, 2015, 11:20:15
Ipak je on već u godinama i mislim da njegovo tijelo teže podnosi napore pod tim uvjetima.
Mislim da Peterhansel još ima velike šanse za postolje jer među prvih 10 nisu velike razlike, cca. u 30 minuta su.Neki kvar ili malo jače zakapanje u pjesak i opet su svi u minuti .
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 09, 2015, 11:53:25
Skoro svaki dan od početka Dakra mi se nešto potrefilo pa na Eurosportu nisam mogao pratiti one sažetke, a po netu se ne piše previše
Šteta, prošle godine je isto prerano završio
(http://www.racexpress.nl/imgitems/article/2014/01/Carlos%20Sainz%20crash%20Dakar%202014%20(2).jpg)
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 09, 2015, 12:04:34
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 09, 2015, 12:38:08
(http://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/styles/980w/public/2014/01/16/rallying_dakar_jpp02.jpg?itok=gFV2OnBr)
Autor: radici - Siječanj 09, 2015, 14:48:27
Autor: SuperVeloce - Siječanj 09, 2015, 20:42:23
(http://e1.365dm.com/15/01/660x350/michal-hernik-poland-dakar_3248695.jpg?20150107064237)
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"The Polish bike rider Michal Hernik was found dead on the selective section of the third stage of the rally between San Juan and Chilecito at kilometre 206.
The circumstances surrounding his death have yet to be determined, as the competitor did not show any external signs of an accident.
When the race management detected the loss of his Irritrack signal and was informed that he had not completed the special stage at 3.16pm (local time), it decided to start a search for the rider at 3.23.
An ambulance helicopter found the rider 300 metres off the route at 4.03. Unfortunately, the on-board doctor could only confirm the rider's death.
Zaista tužno.
Autor: Wulf - Siječanj 09, 2015, 20:52:28
Mislim da će čak i pokrenuti neku istragu zbog toga jer je nekaj smrdljivo jaad
Autor: SuperVeloce - Siječanj 09, 2015, 21:01:13
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 09, 2015, 21:36:43
Ali nebi smjelo jer sigurno moraju proći neke rigorozne lječničke preglede prije starta, ali opet život je k.urva.
Autor: Boss302 - Siječanj 10, 2015, 03:51:58
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 11, 2015, 14:28:50
Accidente El Martillo Racing Dakar 2015 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jbUAKjNR0#ws)
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 11, 2015, 18:17:10
Jučer je bila odlična utrka u Beunos Airesu šofe1
Formula E 2014. Buenos Aires Eprix. Round 4. Race (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V51gFdiH9yo#ws)
Sad je sve lagano sjelo na svoje, ovo je 4. utrka i ok je, jedino onboard zvuk ne mogu smisliti, dok sam gledao utrku na pojačalu glava me boljela od tog zvuka, inače ovak, offboard je probavljivo
Autor: Wulf - Siječanj 11, 2015, 19:36:57
pas mater
Accidente El Martillo Racing Dakar 2015 ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-jbUAKjNR0#ws[/url])
O jebote sta je ovaj oblake snimao?!
Autor: radici - Siječanj 11, 2015, 22:22:51
O jebote sta je ovaj oblake snimao?!a je mu oblak
jesu živi? fpalm1
Autor: SuperVeloce - Siječanj 11, 2015, 22:59:30
a je mu oblak
jesu živi? fpalm1
Preživili su. Mislim da je samo vozač ruku povrijedio(bez loma), ostalo sve ok.
Autor: radici - Siječanj 12, 2015, 02:21:28
Preživili su. Mislim da je samo vozač ruku povrijedio(bez loma), ostalo sve ok.
samo ruka?
pa ja se bolje skršio s bica ,nego oni sa saltom u oblacima
to se zove imAT il nemat sreće
ja sam ovo drugo očigledno šofe1
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 12, 2015, 09:33:49
accidente de Pato Silva dakar 2015 en bolivia (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JeSnytcPyM#)
Imali su gledatelji sreće kad su pomagali Silvi da ih nije ovaj drugi pogodio..
Autor: Wulf - Siječanj 12, 2015, 16:51:47
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 13, 2015, 19:34:47
(https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10835192_749459061790363_559091920617546284_o.jpg)
Ford Fiesta R2 1000 cc, turbo ecoboost
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10906038_826469920746004_4561839210628468924_n.jpg?oh=59de75b3675d3d93d6b3e2919283b4e8&oe=556DBC47&__gda__=1433189531_12e6e7d53a494489be5aab801a5e3cd1)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/53780_826402394086090_7809292925094122649_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/1555351_826469904079339_736101482584710564_n.jpg?oh=253de8b65861fa6dc5d47cb424583774&oe=5528C6FB&__gda__=1429645390_a70d7edf1da9aaaf64b3e5e7ff8ec87a)
Autor: DogZy - Siječanj 13, 2015, 22:39:05
ave1 ave1
Dolaze u RH, vjerojatno na Grobnik. Da ih bar vidim.
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Siječanj 19, 2015, 16:24:53
Na prvu - grdi Panoz Esperante GTR-1.
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Siječanj 21, 2015, 20:29:32
Brutalno zgleda, demon.
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Veljača 02, 2015, 18:27:21
Da su namjerno išli napraviti odvratan bolid ne bi ga uspeli napraviti ovakvom odurom. cer1njo
Vizualno je u rangu onih pijanih replika kaj neki kinez dela sam 5 godina.
GT-R LM NISMO - #GTR #HeroComesHome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Gx_E23VpQQ#ws)
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 02, 2015, 19:53:47
Autor: CROKiXi - Veljača 03, 2015, 00:02:10
Autor: DogZy - Veljača 03, 2015, 00:11:56
Detaljnije (tehničko) štivo za one koji žele malo više. Mulsanne's Corner News, January/February 2015 (http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsjan15.html)
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 03, 2015, 09:15:27
Ak zanemarimo vizualije, zanimljivo ce biti za vidjeti kako ce to izgledati u utrci s obzirom na poziciju motora i prednji pogon..Samo ICE vozi prednje kotace, iza su elektromotori, pa nece biti takav problem
Takodjer, prednje gumesl su sire, pa ne bi trebao tolko podupravljati
@dogzy, tnx za link
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Ožujak 03, 2015, 16:49:31
Autor: speedy56 - Ožujak 06, 2015, 19:31:33
Kvalifikacije se mogu vidjeti sutra na Brit. Eursportu u 21h po našem,prva utrka je u 19 u nedjelju
Autor: speedy56 - Ožujak 08, 2015, 19:19:07
Kod: [Odaberi]
Pos Driver Team Car Time Gap
1 Jose Maria Lopez Citroen Total WTCC Citroen 1m45.461s -
2 Yvan Muller Citroen Total WTCC Citroen 1m46.701s 1.240s
3 Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WTCC Citroen 1m47.061s 1.600s
4 Ma Qing Hua Citroen Total WTCC Citroen 1m47.203s 1.742s
5 Tiago Monteiro Honda Racing Team JAS Honda 1m47.633s 2.172s
6 Tom Chilton ROAL Motorsport Chevrolet 1m46.738s -
7 Gabriele Tarquini Honda Racing Team JAS Honda 1m46.967s -
8 Stefano D'Aste All-Inkl.com Munnich Motorsport Chevrolet 1m47.120s -
9 Tom Coronel ROAL Motorsport Chevrolet 1m48.322s -
10 James Thompson LADA Sport Rosneft Lada 1m50.165s -
11 Robert Huff LADA Sport Rosneft Lada 1m50.553s -
12 Mehdi Bennani Sebastien Loeb Racing Citroen - -
13 Dusan Borkovic Proteam Racing Honda 1m48.443s -
14 John Filippi Campos Racing Chevrolet 1m48.507s -
15 Gregoire Demoustier Craft-Bamboo Racing Chevrolet 1m49.042s -
16 Rickard Rydell Nika International Honda 1m49.267s -
17 Norbert Michelisz Zengo Motorsport Honda - -
18 Hugo Valente Campos Racing Chevrolet - -Šteta da ga je Loeb izgubio, mogao je Mullera dobiti
Počinje upravo - Eurosport 2 Live Stream | Eurosport 2 (http://cricfree.sx/euro-sport-2-live-stream)
Edit:
Lopez se prošetao u prvoj utrci, Loeb imao dobar prvi krug u drugoj i dobio
Muller 2. u prvoj, dnf druga, nije ni krenulo, a već je loše
Druga utrka nije bila loša, prva (po običaju) procesija.
Rano je za prognozirati, ali je dojam da je Loeb razinu bolji nego prošle godine, također Lada bi mogla biti zanimljiva kad se slože stvari, pogotovo Huff
Autor: speedy56 - Ožujak 14, 2015, 20:56:13
FE upravo, trebat će vam neki vpn
Autor: speedy56 - Ožujak 28, 2015, 23:25:05
Necu stavljat slike ni video jer nije bas lijep prikaz (a i na mobu sam), tek tolko da se kaze rijec i o tome, posebno jer su mozda neki ovdje prije par godina lovili vremena u GT-u
Autor: Cole™ - Ožujak 28, 2015, 23:35:22
Autor: DogZy - Ožujak 29, 2015, 09:57:00
Autor: Boss302 - Ožujak 29, 2015, 11:21:53
Autor: Wulf - Ožujak 29, 2015, 19:01:53
pogledao video, ali nisam vidio info o stradalima.. ali ovo da je klinac poginul... užas fpalm1 cry1
al kako ga je diglo prije zavoja. Možda nije ništa strašno, ali dosta je to kaj ti se auto tak zapiči u barijeru di su ljudi
Kaj je sa Jannom na kraju?
Autor: speedy56 - Ožujak 29, 2015, 21:03:05
GT3 cars banned from Nordschleife after fatal accident | VLN news | Motorsport.com (http://www.motorsport.com/vln/news/gt3-cars-banned-from-nordschleife-after-fatal-accident)
Autor: speedy56 - Travanj 07, 2015, 22:02:20
U Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz i Antiniusbuche (onaj lijevi nakon Dottinger Hohe pravca) je stavljeno ograničenej od 200 km/h, a na Dot. Hohe 250 hmm, skinut će i 5% snage motora, te će se ograničiti pristup fanova.
Nordschleife's GT3 ban lifted | VLN news | Motorsport.com (http://www.motorsport.com/vln/news/nordschleife-s-gt3-ban-lifted)
Autor: Wulf - Travanj 14, 2015, 17:13:17
Autor: Wulf - Lipanj 01, 2015, 13:51:50
Racing and danger, one can not be without the other | INDYCAR news | Motorsport.com (http://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/racing-and-danger-one-can-not-be-without-the-other)
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Danger and safety in racing have become hot topics this past week at IMS...
On Monday of this week, James Hinchcliffe suffered a right front suspension failure during Indy 500 practice, the fifth major incident this month, but definitely the most unsettling - A suspension piece pierced the safety cell of the car and went through his legs.
Race car drivers are human, they can't beat death, but they certainly do conquer it every time they get behind the wheel.
Nick DeGroot on the mentality of a racer
Without the quick actions of the Holmatro Safety Crew, the blood loss could have potentially proven fatal within minutes. It's yet another reminder of how perilous racing still is, but these drivers know the stakes when they're chasing racing immortality at 230+mph around Indianapolis Motor Speedway, or anywhere else in the world for that matter. They aren't ignorant to the danger, they accept it. I admire that and think Tony Kanaan and Sebastien Bourdais put it best. There's plenty of people that can drive fast, but as Kanaan says in that piece, "Not everybody can do this."
It will never be completely safe, no matter how hard we try
Motorsports have never been and never will be completely safe. The concept of auto racing and absolute safety don't really go together. We can only take appropriate measures without diluting the on-track product and ruining the sport in the name of protecting its participants. And yes, there is always room for improvement.
The essence of racing IS danger and competition though, we can't forget that. It's a desire to push the limits and tease the line between complete control and unmitigated chaos. It's about victory and failure, triumph and tragedy. These are all part of the fundamental core that make auto racing what it is.
A league of their own
The fact that all drivers involved in these accidents this month are alive and only one injured should be applauded, but yet, I still see a contingent of people who are bewildered and outraged by the fact that a driver could somehow get hurt doing this. Of course they can. That's why they're in a league of their own and that's why I rank race car drivers above most other sportsmen in the world (as did Ernest Hemingway).
The best out there get in their cars with a desire to win and no fear of the harsh consequences that await them, should something go wrong. They dance with chaos, trying not to trip at speeds exceeding 200mph, inches apart from one another. They are human, they can't beat death, but they certainly do conquer it every time they get behind the wheel.
It takes a certain kind of person to be a race car driver. When they throw themselves off into the corner, they are putting their lives in the hands of the machine they are driving, trusting it and having faith that it will carry them out the other end. At those kinds of speeds, every fiber of your being will be telling you that you're going too fast and need to slow down, an instinct all racers overcome. Even after the violent accidents we've seen recently, all got back into the car and ran as fast as they did before, undeterred. I'm sure Hinchcliffe would do the same, if he were physically able.
Why is it worth it?
Why is it worth the risk, some who don't understand the esoteric mentality of a racer will question. If you have to ask, you'll never truly understand because you don't think like them. If there is a proper answer though, I think Bruce McLaren can give a better response than I ever could. He was a driver who ended up being one of those who paid the ultimate price and perished in pursuit of the checkered flag. He gave this eulogy at the funeral of his friend Timmy Mayer, who was killed in 1964 after a practice crash in the old Tasman Series, six years prior to Bruce's own racing-related death.
To do something well is so worthwhile that to die trying to do it better cannot be foolhardy. It would be a waste of life to do nothing with one's ability, for I feel that life is measured in achievement, not in years alone.
Bruce McLaren
That is what it means to be a race car driver and that is why I love racing. That is part of the reason why events like Indy and Le Mans are held in a higher regard than others. Not because there is the constant threat of injury, but because the drivers know the risks of what they do and yet, they race on.
I citat koji se spominje u tekstu
“There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games.”
― Ernest Hemingway
Autor: Wulf - Lipanj 05, 2015, 14:55:21
Pokušat ću se sjetit i gledat baš kuul
Rimac announces Pikes Peak attempt with 1475bhp electric racer | Evo (http://www.evo.co.uk/news/16065/rimac-announces-pikes-peak-attempt-with-1475bhp-electric-racer)
Autor: speedy56 - Rujan 29, 2015, 17:56:38
Loeb 2016. na Dakru s Peugeotom i to s Elenom kao suvozačem šofe1
Ostatak ekipe je ostao isti - Sainz, Peterhansel, Despres ave1
Peugeot se malo produljio, proširio i snizio:
(http://editorialspace.redbull.com/Peugeot-returns-to-Dakar/car/slider/data2/images/galleryimage05.jpg)
(http://editorialspace.redbull.com/Peugeot-returns-to-Dakar/car/slider/data2/images/galleryimage07.jpg)
(http://editorialspace.redbull.com/Peugeot-returns-to-Dakar/car/slider/data2/images/galleryimage03.jpg)
dat ass dsmoker
i za kraj: (možda nečiji novi desktop), stavio bih kao sliku dana, ali nema smisla da 2x postam istu stvar
(http://gp-live.hu/media/2015/09/loebdakar1.jpg)
3. siječnja počinje prava akcija:
Kod: [Odaberi]
31/12 and 01/01: Administrative and technical checks
02/01: Start podium in Buenos Aires
03/01: Buenos Aires - Villa Carlos Paz
04/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Termas de Río Hondo
05/01: Termas de Río Hondo - Jujuy
06/01: Jujuy - Jujuy
07/01: Jujuy - Uyuni
08/01: Uyuni - Uyuni
09/01: Uyuni - Salta
10/01: Rest day in Salta
11/01: Salta - Belén
12/01: Belén - Belén
13/01: Belén - La Rioja
14/01: La Rioja - San Juan
15/01: San Juan - Villa Carlos Paz
16/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Rosario
Autor: speedy56 - Listopad 24, 2015, 07:38:26
Ujutro su se vozile kvalifikacije, ovo su rezultati superpolea
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSDsNVgUsAErA_Q.png:large)
Piquet, prvak prve sezone, je imao problem s zaglavljenim gasom (nešto ala Rosberg u Rusiji) i slupao sa ne FP1
Nelson Piquet Pit Lane Crash! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaKrYwqfjIs)
Ove sezone šasije ostaju iste, kao i baterije, ali momčadi, odn, konstruktori mogu imati svoje motore, inventere i mjenjače. Na temelju viđenog, Renault je napravio najbolji posao.
Utrka je u 10h po našem vremenu, prijenos je na Itv4, a mislim da bi i ovo trebalo raditi FIA Formula E Championship - Live Streaming - Official FIA Formula E Championship (http://www.fiaformulae.com/en/live-streaming.aspx) + Watch Formula E Practice, Qualifying And Full Race LIVE On YouTube! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp8xa_8VZCU)
Po mom mišljenju, grid je još jači nego prošle godine, Od većih novih igrača, treba spomenuti Villeneuvea (jedini F1 prvak), Robina Frijnsa i Simonu de Silvestro
(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12095310_1031581370215077_541280539494523377_o.jpg)
Edit:
Nije bila loša utrka. Istina, gledali smo i boljih prošle sezone, ali što je tu je. Nakon prve utrke prošle sezone nisam bio siguran hoću li uopće pratiti ostale utrke, da bi na kraju imali super sezonu.
Na čelu je Buemi naravno odjurio naprijed (iako je prvih par krugova dalo nadu da će biti i borbe za pobjedu). Renault je pogodio s pogonom, (e)Dams je odličan gdje god se pojavi, a Buemi vrlo dobar vozač koji te sve sastojke može iskoristiti. Za razliku od maloga Prosta (čini se da ga Peking baš i ne voli)... Nije mi bila jasna ona situacija s crno-narančastom zastavom. Kaj nije ti u prijevodu "odmah ulazi u boks i popravi taj auto ili odustani", a ne "ej... čuj... daj nastavi voziti još pet krugova s raspadajućim bolidom dok se ne odlučiš hoćeš li uči u boks ili ne" :/
Slična situacija bi bila da je Abt najbolja momčadi. Di Grassi bi orao pobjede svaku utrku, a Abt glumio Prosta.
DS Virgin je po meni gubitnik utrke, imaju brzinu, imaju vozače, ali ako će trošiti ovoliko energije neće daleko doći. Točno se vidjelo koliko su JEV i Bird nekoliko puta trebali raditi više/dulje lift&coast i gubili pozicije. Treba reći da je problem s potrošnjom vjeorojatno i veći nego kaj se danas vidjelo jer smo ipak imali dvije FCY.
Turvey je odlično iskoristio te FCY i završio puno bolje nego je realna pozicicija tog NextEV-a.
Frijns nije razočarao na debiju. Šteta kaj vozi 1 god stari bolid
I za kraj, treba spomenuti da prijenos i nakon godinu dana još uvijek radi glupe greške. Npr onaj "all team team radio", za kaj to služi?! Neke dvoboje su pokazivali iz dosta čudnih kuteva, pokazuju previše reakcija u garažama umjesto akcije na stazi, a i rado bih vidio kak je AFdA okrenuo Villeneueva (bio je još jedan incindent koji su preskočili)
Autor: speedy56 - Studeni 09, 2015, 19:52:52
20.11 je kup nacija, a 21.11. (subota) je utrka prvaka
Lista vozača
Citat:
Drivers already announced for the 2015 Race Of Champions:
Sebastian VETTEL, four-time Formula 1 World Champion
Nico HÜLKENBERG, F1 star and 2015 Le Mans 24 Hours winner
Tom KRISTENSEN, nine-time Le Mans 24 Hours winner
Petter SOLBERG, World Rallycross Champion 2014, World Rally Champion 2003
Daniel RICCIARDO, three-time Formula 1 grand prix winner
Mick DOOHAN, five-time 500cc MotoGP World Champion
Felipe MASSA, 11-time Formula 1 grand prix winner
Nelson PIQUET Jr, reigning FIA Formula E Champion
David COULTHARD, reigning ROC Champion of Champions
Susie WOLFF, Williams Martini Racing Official Test Driver
Jason PLATO, double British Touring Car Champion
Jorge LORENZO, double MotoGP World Champion
Romain GROSJEAN, ten F1 podiums, 2012 ROC Champion of Champions
Ryan HUNTER-REAY, 2014 Indy 500 winner, 2012 IndyCar Champion
Alex BUNCOMBE, 2015 Blancpain Endurance Series Champion
Jenson BUTTON, 2009 Formula 1 World Champion
Pascal WEHRLEIN, 2015 DTM Champion
Jolyon PALMER, 2014 GP2 Champion
Drivers confirmed for the ROC Celebrity Skills Challenge presented by TAG Heuer:
Chris HOY, six-time Olympic gold medallist in cycling
Ben AINSLIE, four-time Olympic gold medallist in sailing
Mike TINDALL, 2003 Rugby World Cup winner for England
Ella EYRE, MOBO award-winning singer/songwriter
Joey ESSEX, British television personality
Jon-Allan BUTTERWORTH, multiple medal-winning Paralympic cyclist
Moram reći da mi je ovo u ovakvom terminu skoro bezveze, F1 još neće biti gotova taj vikend, GP2 i GP3 će imati još jednu utrku nakon toga vikenda, WEC taj vikend ima zadnju utrku.
Bolje mi je to bilo tamo negdje oko Božića
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 03, 2016, 14:10:45
I prije nego je krenulo, krenulo je loše - jučer je tokom 11km prolougea Mini sletio u gledatelje i ozlijedio 11 ljudi, 2 (otac i sin cry1) ozbiljnije > 11 spectators injured in Dakar prologue accident (http://www.motorsport.com/dakar/news/11-spectators-injured-in-dakar-prologue-accident-665642/)
Na tom prolouge se javio i prvi problem za Peugeot, Sainz je neko vrijeme vozio s ovakvom haubom
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyBxAhWEAEMLMR.jpg)
Razlog je izgleda voda (Tom Coronel je u jednom svojem videu, nakon što je dobio solidan mlaz vode u kokpit buggya, rekao da je bio jedan prolaz vode za koji su im rekli da je cca 30cm dubok zapravo bio skoro 60cm. Možda je to taj Sainzov)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyUYQJWAAADNNv.jpg)
Kako razlikovati laviće
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXoWY1IWAAAbkK5.jpg)
ono... treba ti kocka od 16 kubika da spakiraš taj auto i oni su od svih mogućih stvari našli farbati taj sitni usis, po pijesku će se jedva kužiti razlika
S Loebom je došao i Hirvonen...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXyawojWcAE6hyA.jpg)
Ieto, taman dok sam ovo pisao je sletila vijest da je prva etapa otkazana zbog sigurnosnih uvjeta... kava1
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 04, 2016, 23:59:57
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160104/549d1841578afba7fed6ccba8e6219b2.jpg)
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Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 05, 2016, 09:09:06
Sainz je drugi dan zaredom imao probleme, ovaj put je zbog problema s elektronikom motora (stao je) izgubio nekih 12-13min. Dobro je, ako Sainz ne može (a može ako lavić izdrži do kraja) onda mi je drago da Loeb pokazuje ovakav ritam.
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 06, 2016, 10:59:01
Ako ga posluži auto i malo sreća mislim da imamo izglednog pobjednika. :)
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Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 06, 2016, 13:50:47
Treba vidjeti kako će se snalaziti po dinama u pustinji (a i navigaciji s Elenom, ipak im je ovo prvi put), ovo dosad mu je bio domaći, wrc teritorij (o čemu svjedoči i dobra dosadašnja forma Hirvonena), ali kako god ovo završi, dao mi je dovoljnu potvrdu da se radi o najvećem živućem vozaču danas ave1 šofe1
Autor: DlxWrecker - Siječanj 06, 2016, 15:13:31
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 06, 2016, 15:33:04
ima neki stream di se moze ovo pogledati?
Ne, barem kolko je meni poznato, možda neka lokalna televizija ima ekipu pa imaju live ubacivanje na startu/početku etapa. U pravilu se prate Eurosportovi polusatni sažetci kasno navečer istog dana, ili ujutro dan nakon etape.
Ako loviš britanski Eurosport imaš komentare Carlton Kirbya, meni je on jako dobar, komentira i biciklizam pa sam se već naviknul na njega, ali je teško ugurati sažetke 4 klase, par znamenitosti mjesta kroz koje prolaze i reklama u pola sata pa na kraju to baš i ne ispadne odlično :/
Možeš pratiti stanje na službenom live timingu (ako imaš sreće da ti se stranica svako malo ne smrzne ili ti ne pokazuje motore kad ti odabereš automobile) ARGENTINA BOLIVIA DAKAR 2016 (http://gaps.dakar.com/2016/dakar/stage-05/aso/ukie.php)
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Siječanj 13, 2016, 22:42:30
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 16, 2016, 17:31:50
Kao što i slika govori, Peterhansel je uzeo 12. pobjedu, odn. trebao bi uzeti 12. pobjedu ako od Minijevog protesta neće biti ništa (naime, Peterhansel je tankao gorivo tamo gdje nije trebao i nije dobio kaznu, Mini se žalio).
Drugi je Al-Attiyah, a treći de Villiers koji je fakat dobro vozio. Hirvonnen je na prvom Dakaru završio četvrti, sljedeći Peugeot je sedmi (Despres), a Loeb je deveti. Sainz je (nakon kaj je konačno vodio s lijepih 7minute nakon svih problema koje je imao) odustao zbog problema s mjenjačem. Moram reći da mi je baš žao jaad bio je najbolji Peugeot ako se mene pita, ali ne ide ga zadnjih godina na Dakaru nikako.
One Al-Attiyahove izjave prije početka da Peugeot još nije u potpunosti spreman su imale dobre temelje, Peterhansel je bio jedini koji nije imao nikakve mehaničke kvarove, ostala trojica su imala i gubila sate na nekim etapama.
Motore je uzeo Toby Price, njegova prva pobjeda, ujedno i prva za Australca. Marcos Patronelli je pobjedio u quadovima, a Gerard de Rooy u klasi kamiona
Autor: CROKiXi - Siječanj 16, 2016, 19:16:17
Dražen Ćurić, Hrvat koji je nekoliko puta nastupio na Dakar Rallyu na jednom susjednom forumu je cijelo vrijeme komentirao rally po etapama.
DRAZEN CURIC DAKAR - Page 66 - Auto sport Srbija - Rally - Kruzne trke - Brdske trke (http://www.gonzaracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11242&start=975)
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 16, 2016, 20:14:00
Nije mi baš drago za Peterhansela jer znam da mu nije ovo prva pobjeda koji nije "čista" hmm
Dražen Ćurić, Hrvat koji je nekoliko puta nastupio na Dakar Rallyu na jednom susjednom forumu je cijelo vrijeme komentirao rally po etapama.
DRAZEN CURIC DAKAR - Page 66 - Auto sport Srbija - Rally - Kruzne trke - Brdske trke ([url]http://www.gonzaracing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11242&start=975[/url])
odlično tekstovi! thumbs1 pročitao sam 2 posta već sam dobio dosta info, šteta kaj nisi prije postao, baš bi bilo zanimljivo pratiti uz komentare nekoga tko ima ranijih iskustva s face-of-the-place
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 28, 2016, 09:08:29
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12552521_934338986615853_6274204425631629341_n.jpg?oh=f696583ed93fa8cec62a326bfb51b573&oe=573018D5)
Neće niti trebati paliti svjetla po noći :P
Autor: DogZy - Siječanj 31, 2016, 20:59:40
Kakav finiš nakon 24h! ave1
Autor: Cole™ - Siječanj 31, 2016, 21:39:37
A daj...
Hoću highlightse pogledat, pa mi linkajte ako imate volje potražit.
I hoću taj video tog finiša; brutala!!!
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 01, 2016, 11:07:36
Na mobu ssm pa jos nemam nista bolje
Edit:
Evo zadnjih 12min
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_wOb5Aco8#)
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 04, 2016, 17:41:23
ovdje će biti stream 12h Bathursta
2016 Bathurst 12 Hour - LIVE! #B12Hr - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHCqM5k48O8)
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 04, 2016, 18:34:03
Sent from the den
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 05, 2016, 17:04:10
To sad u Subotu?
Sent from the den
Da, po našem vremenu bi trebalo biti u subotu navečer, ako sam dobro skužio oni su 9h od nas, evo i cijelog rasporeda
Schedule | Bathurst 12 Hour (http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/event-info/schedule)
Ja ću vjerojatno pogledati malo u subotu navečer i u nedjelju ujutro šofe1
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Veljača 05, 2016, 17:15:25
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Veljača 05, 2016, 18:52:46
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1O4ChHM4jE#)
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAzcz6GPAUM#)
Ukratko.
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 06, 2016, 07:03:47
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Autor: DogZy - Veljača 06, 2016, 12:52:40
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Veljača 06, 2016, 13:44:12
Iduće sezone ogromne su šanse da bude prvak u V8 Supercars, jer je i u Teknu bil više nego konkurentan, a sad bu vozil za RBR.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIQGR8lcskA#)
Autor: ManTheRamparts - Veljača 07, 2016, 11:35:01
The team’s chances took a blow when van Gisbergen was issued a drive-through penalty for pit lane speeding when he began his final stint, however well-timed Safety Cars and savvy strategy from the TEKNO team returned the No. 59 car to the front.
Jep, to je SVG. cer1njo
Autor: DogZy - Veljača 07, 2016, 13:25:57
Autor: c0bra123 - Travanj 14, 2016, 14:58:15
bilo bi ok da da napravimo temu za npr "balkanske utrke" šta se got desi u bivšoj yogi ili šta će se desiti što se tiče utrka, bilo čega vezano za auta, skupova bla bla da otvorimo temu?
Bljesak.info | Najveći događaj auto-moto sporta u 2016. uskoro u Mostaru (http://www.bljesak.info/rubrika/automoto/clanak/najveci-dogadaj-automoto-sporta-u-2016-uskoro-u-mostaru/148102) Mislim da ću ić hug1
Autor: DogZy - Travanj 14, 2016, 15:16:25
Tema je tu, nema potrebe za duplikatima. Jest da je za Hrvatsku, ali budući da imamo nekoliko vas dragih susjeda, mislim da nije problem preimenovati u "Hrvatskoj i okolici". P.S. mogao bih postati baš tamo fotke od sajma prošli tjedan, da se tema oživi.
Autor: c0bra123 - Travanj 14, 2016, 15:21:11
Ako cole ili netko more premjestit moj odg u tu temu bio bi zahvalan. 
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Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 04, 2017, 10:56:23
International Streaming - Liqui-Moly Bathurst 12 Hour (http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/streams-tv/international-streaming/)
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 04, 2017, 21:16:18
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Autor: DogZy - Veljača 05, 2017, 02:32:10
Autor: DogZy - Veljača 05, 2017, 08:01:38
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 05, 2017, 14:37:35
Jedva cekam sezonu za sve..
Btw toyota potvrdila 3 bolid za WEC LeMans
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Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 05, 2017, 15:12:53
Ali utrka je geenijalna...
Autor: Iceman - Veljača 05, 2017, 16:06:49
Autor: DogZy - Veljača 05, 2017, 17:34:15
Autor: Iceman - Veljača 05, 2017, 17:49:13
Kad pogledate trku pa možemo komunicirat, dotad - ne otvaraj!!! ;D
Autor: DogZy - Veljača 05, 2017, 19:26:21
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 06, 2017, 15:09:39
Autor: speedy56 - Siječanj 27, 2018, 18:48:13
24H DAYTONA LIVESTREAM - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lPL-nUDtc&feature=youtu.be)
Ovdje će biti stream, a Eurosport (tko ima) će prenositi prvi i zadnji sat utrke
Autor: the_prodigy - Siječanj 31, 2018, 16:41:30
Jebacki izgleda ovaj Gen2 bolid
btw. nemamo Formula-E teme na forumu?
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 01, 2018, 08:21:31
Autor: Punisher - Veljača 01, 2018, 16:42:26
Autor: Iceman - Veljača 01, 2018, 16:46:22
Calendar - FIA World Endurance Championship (http://www.fiawec.com/en/calendar/80)
Autor: Punisher - Veljača 01, 2018, 17:09:23
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 01, 2018, 18:15:59
Btv:
Bathurst ovaj wikend kuul
International Streaming - Liqui-Moly Bathurst 12 Hour (http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/streams-tv/international-streaming/)
Autor: Evil - Veljača 01, 2018, 19:05:40
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 01, 2018, 19:09:10
Ne, vozi sve utrke ove godine (ne sezone), izuzev Fujija jer se poklapa s USGP. S time da Toyota (vlasnici Fujija) hoće da vozi i to pa se pokušavaju dogovoriti s WEC-om da pomakne utrku za tjedan dana.
Btv:
Bathurst ovaj wikend kuul
International Streaming - Liqui-Moly Bathurst 12 Hour ([url]http://www.bathurst12hour.com.au/streams-tv/international-streaming/[/url])
to bi bio start u 20h navečer onda?
Autor: speedy56 - Veljača 02, 2018, 20:44:26
to bi bio start u 20h navečer onda?Tu negde, između 20 i 21
Imaš na webu odbrojavanje pa izračunaj
Nisam proučaval baš jer imam jedan rođendan sutra, tak da ak opće vidim start to bu dobro
E:
Audi dobio - WRT u prvom pokušaju kuul
Merđo (Whincup) drugi, treći 911 (Lieb)
Utrka je zavšrila 12min ranije, bio je veliki sudar gore u planini, 3 auta stradala, predugo bi se to sve čistilo pa su prekinuli utrku.
Šteta, jer bi bilo super zanimljivo do kraja, bilo je dobrih 4-5 auta koji su na kraju mogli uzeti to.
Autor: Wulf - Veljača 04, 2018, 08:56:18
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