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Offline DogZy

Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 15:42:16 »
Dragi CSR članovi,

Otvorio sam novu temu u Team radio-u upravo zato što je to podforum osmišljen za pravljenje evenata, utrka, meetinga iz neke igre, s točno određenim pravilima vožnje/igre. Riječ je o Gran Turismu 5, a baš se sad nešto kuha da bi se određeni forumi mogli međusobno natjecati. To su GTS forum i jedan talijanski GT forum. Pa sam došao na ideju zašto se i CSR forum ne bi mogao natjecati?

Stvar je friška, još je u povojima, tako da su prijedlozi dobrodošli kadt1kažem. Ništa još nije potvrđeno i sigurno. Zato molim sve na obzirnost i pažnju. Istotako, trebali bi mi se svi GT5 vozači javiti u ovu temu kao bi ostavili svoj komentar i kritiku, da bi potpomogli napretku ovog projekta.

Ako se ovo izrealizira, mogli bismo imati veoma zanimljiva natjecanja među forumima. Zamislite CSR, GTS i GTDrivers.it forum vozače kako osvajaju bodove u utrkama za svoj forum! To bi bilo nešto fantastično! Ako sve to zaživi, ne gine nam da otvorimo i temu u racing klanovi podforumu kadt1kažem
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline ivann

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #1 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 16:25:49 »
Online ili time trial? Ideja je na mjestu.

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #2 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 16:26:52 »
Online utrkivanje kadt1kažem. Nikakav time trial.
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline ivann

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #3 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 16:29:22 »
Moglo bi bit svega tu, jer svakaki ljudi ima. Al ja sam uvjek za.

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #4 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 16:33:30 »
Naravno, sto ljudi, sto čudi. Ali sva tri foruma su HC i voze po istim pravilima, tako da oko toga nema frke.
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline Montoya

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #5 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 18:17:57 »
Ideja je sasvim ok, svakako vrlo ambiciozna.
Ostvariti je sigurno ne bude lako, no zato i služe forumi - treba probati!

 
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od 2008. & od 2009.


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Offline s2000

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #6 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 19:08:13 »
Meni se ovo jako sviđa i nadam se da će uspjet.Koliko god bih to volio voziti,više bih volio da se naša stara ekipa okupi i vozi ali ako je ovo način,zašto ne,moglo bi biti jako dobro "braniti boje svoga foruma".
Postoji šansa da neki vozači neće doći na sve utrke,i tu bi  možda moglo doći do problema jer ako se već organizira trebalo bi biti pravo takmičenje,a ne odvesti 2-3 utrke i napustiti prvenstvo.

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #7 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 20:19:11 »
 sm1jeh
Vjerujem da prvenstva jos nece biti kao takvoga- 6,7 utrka na kojima ce svi biti. Sve zavisi o interesu vozaca ta tri foruma. Mislim da ce to biti one time eventi dok se ne skupe dojmovi vozaca za nesto vise. Za GTS i CSR sam siguran da ce odaziv biti dobar, ne vidim razlog zasto takp ne bi bilo i kod nasih dragih susjeda.

Ovo nije nikakva alternativa za nasa online druzenja, imat cemo ih mi, ali ovo je jos nesto vise da prosirimo horizonte, kako bi rekli.
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline s2000

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #8 u: Srpanj 23, 2012, 21:29:51 »
Nadam se da bude nešto od toga,nisam baš iskusan u online natjecanjima ali  ako bude  bilo nešto od toga,svakako ću se pripremat  šofe1

Offline iced16

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #9 u: Studeni 17, 2012, 15:16:24 »
Pozdrav svima!

Evo, projekt stapanja svjetskih foruma u jedno natjecanje je u punom tijeku te smo došli do faze uvodnih prvenstava. Dakle, prije nego što započne najmasovnija svjetska liga, imamo dva prvenstva gdje pozivamo sve ljude koji su želji dobrih vožnji i najboljeg fairplaya. Već nam se javilo nekoliko stranaca, tako da su čak i ova prvenstva već postala internacionalna.

Nemojte krivo shvatiti... I na ono najmasovnije svjetsko prvenstvo su pozvani svi vozači koji su željni lijepih vožnji i prije svega vrhunskog fairplaya.

Tekst je napisan na engleskom, pa da sve sad ne prevodim sam copy paste napravio.         



"TUNING PROHIBITED" COMPETITIONS     
         
Are a series of "warm up“ competitions leading to big Cross-Forum Championship that’s coming quite soon - starts as soon as we gather enough forums.
link: 1st.Gran Turismo Cross-Forum World Championship
Invitation to Cross-Forum Championships - GTPlanet Forums


These PROHIBITION DAYS 1&2, should both start in just a few days - will be advertised at GTP, GTSurgeons and Pure - under specially kind and helpfull sponzoring from them

By their own right "Prohibition Days" are quite inovative series, with special new ways for:
1.) Many different cars on track simultaneously – but with Tuning Prohibited, and that eliminates exhausting set-up “guess” work, gives you more time for actual driving and having FUN :tup:

2.) You get to enjoy all 4 cars (in this example) during the same season - instead of time consuming 4 seasons. This way, for next season you already get to enjoy 4 completely new cars :tup: 

3.) Many new strategic options to keep championships exciting much longer 

4.) New motivation with all new ways to get into highest divisions – instead of week long qualy to determine Divisions, your Division can change depending on result of previous race. Gives much more importance to actual racing :tup:

5.) New motivation for clean drivers and non-aggressors – by avoiding accidents and off-road excursions you can actually out-score higher placed drivers (if they drive too aggressively) 

6.) Highly automated rules – not better then other rules, far from perfect, but 100% identical to all, and quite simpler than most other.


And after first few seasons, even more exciting ways of cars-mixing are coming and we promise to “complicate up” the rules (but only if that’s what you really want).

But, you know we need your support and some time? We can not shape this series to best wishes of it’s supporters before it has any! You see   
So, WELCOME and THANK YOU



We’ve made quite a list of potential forums (cca.15) and will start climbing that hill these days. I would also like to ask you to recommend any other “GT” forums that you have contacts with and would like to invite to this Cross-forum stuff  Please do so, and it will be much appreciated!
Already on the roster are:
Gran Turismo Planet
PURE
GTSurgeons
GTDrivers
RaceDepartment
Grumpy Old Men (are expected  )

And, as soon as time allows, Invites will be sent to major German, French, Spanish, Portugal, Benelux, Polish, Russian... and many other forums, including some bigger non-national ones as well. But this will take time, and most will not be up for a month or two. We are doing this seriously and with great care


“Warm ups” basically serve to provide a practical place where we can already invite people from those "new" forums to actual racing, while waiting for some other forums to join.
We must start getting familiar with each other and with all the regulations that go along with Cross-Forum championship.

Regulations must be kept extremely simple, at least initially, to minimize misunderstandings or even disagreements. It could be quite futile trying to carry more complex rules, through language barriers and (possibly) some different approaches to racing philosophy – BEFORE we create even more understanding and trust between people from many forums.

I know you are use to much more complex regulations, but I'm sure you understand practical reasons for that. And, also that you will find our "Car choice options" exciting enough to fully enjoy these events.

Because of specific structure of “warm up" championships, you will have NO obligation to participate regulary if you sign up.

But you should sign up quickly as possible if you want to secure best starting positions and choices for yourself!

Example - in case we need multiple race rooms (Divisions), in first race they will be filled up in order of your sing ups. And for following races it will depend on your results - because we'll be implementing "FLOATING POSITIONS" system (more on that in related posts)

But, obviously, there are no obligations after your sign ups, so all folks are WELCOME to drop in, even for a one race or two, with no obligation. Just to help with some proper testing and evaluation of those regulations.
And quicker you adapt to these regulations, you'll have better race results when BIG races come



As stated "There's no obligation to participate" - So, to avoid lounges ending up half empty on Race Day, there will be special CONFORMATION PERIOD.
CONFORMATION PERIOD - Starts 48h before the Race, and closes 24h before the Race. You are expected to show up only if you confirm your participation during that period.
Drivers can still confirm after "C.period closes", that only means they will simply join the back of a line up. Since we are doing this for fun, it shouldn't matter! 


PROHIBITION DAYS "1" - on Tuesdays
Consists of 2 races on that evening (or someone's morning



 
1. Emperor’s Cup – in glory of their Emperor, 4 Japanese legends duel it out. (10'qualy+35’ race)
2. Hot Hatch Championship – as a follow up we get to race some Euro legends (reverse grid+20')

Point when we have 4 races with 4 different cars on offer - is that every car can be used only once. Or in other words, EVERY CAR MUST be used once  But every driver is FREE to chose order in wich to use them.



TUESDAYS
1. Emperor's Cup – let’s make Emperor proud
Other, real life, Emperor's Cups - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor's_Cup#Other_Emperor.27s_Cups




Motegi Road Course
Suzuka
Tokyo
Fuji F

Qualy lenght: 10'
Race lenght: 35'
Tire/fuel wear: very fast
Tires: SH




2. Hot Hatch Championship – and don’t forget Euro empire  :roll:   




Nurb GP/D
Trial Mountain reverse
Spa
Suzuka east

Qualy: „Emperor’s“ reverse grid
Race lenght: 20'
Tire/fuel wear: very fast
Tires: CS

Here are already mentioned "extremely simplified" rules 



ROOM SETTINGS:
All races will be held in public lobbies
Slots: depend of participants
Race Quality: Recomended
VOIP: Minimum
Host: Unfixed
Start Type: Grid Start with false start check
Penalty: Weak
Race Finish Delay: max.
Visible Damage: Off
Mechanical Damage: Heavy
Slipstream Strength: Weak
Tire Wear/Fuel: On - quite strong in any case
Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real



Regulation Settings: (goal is to make this Championsip accesible even to drivers like me, average or less, but still to allow aliens to shine through  )
Vehicle Tuning: PROHIBITED
ABS: Optional
Traction Control: Optional
Active Steering: OFF
Skid Recovery Force: OFF
ASM: OFF
Driving Line: Optional



Qualifying:
Will be done during 15’ of Free run prior to RACE.
If it looks like qualifications are not functioning – one of the organizers will first record his own “best lap time” then leave the track to enter “Watch Race” where he will record the times of all other participants.
Then the track will be reset, and organizer will call participants to enter the track in order he recorded previously. Participants will only leave the pits and park after the FIRST CORNER in that order. When all participants enter the track, organizer will START the race.

Qualifications are run only just before the race, because there just might be too many participants… one day I mean, not here, now…
But, instead of turning to qualys to determine divisions for each week – in each “division” there are “floating positions”.
Example - we have 3 rooms. In room A last 4 positions (from previous race) will have to drive in room B for next race.
Top 4 positions from room B move up to room A. But last 4 will drop into room C for the next race…
Important, CLEAN DRIVERS  (without penalties or damages), will have advantage over “dirty” ones! (If someone’s points for 8th position+bonus points equal more then another drivers 4th position without bonus points).
Late arrivals will have to start from last division, there’s no other way.
Well, maybe when it comes to new forum that brings more than couple of participants – we might extend possibility to instantly place ONE driver in each division/room, and the rest would start from back?



In case of disconnection during the race:
Disconnected participant will be awarded last position. If more then one participant gets disconnected, they will be placed according to order of their disconnection.



Penalties:
- if someone causes damage to another driver for the second time during season, penalty is starting from back of the grid in the next race. If driver can prove to have been affected by circumstances beyond his normal control, he will not receive this penalty.
- if someone causes damage to another driver for the third time during season, it means starting from the back of the grid until the end of the championship.

But penalty for causing damage DURING FIRST LAP means starting from the back in the next race. Twice means starting from the back entire season. Third time means leaving the curent championship...



Additional Bonuses:
- additional x* points bonus for completing the race without causing damage to other drivers. If a driver can prove that he was affected by circumstances beyond his normal control, then he also receives this bonus.
- additional x* points bonus for finishing the race without any penalties. It will be awarded in case when another participant forced you to earn penalty. If driver can prove that he was affected by circumstances beyond his normal control, then he also receives this bonus.
If driver (A) causes another driver (B) to commit penalty - then driver A loses bonus, driver B keeps it

*Actual amouts, for EACH bonus, are 10% of points for victory in "division 1", so that always depends on how many rooms/divisions will be needed for all participants)

NOBODY GETS BONUSES AUTOMATICALY – everyone must claim, after race, in THIS thread (no pm’s) that they deserved particular bonuses. If another participant disagrees then they MUST USE PM’s to inform organizers witch drivers failed to earn them.


- for any critical disregard towards Fair Play rules, and their spirit, driver can be penalized with starting from the back of the grid once, or until the end, or he can be disqualified from the entire championship.

SCORIN SYSTEM:


 
To accomodate possibility of multiple lounges/divisions, foundation will be simple spread of 1 point difference from bottom to top of ALL drivers that participated.
But TOP POSITIONS in each division will receive addition of 4,9% (for 3rd.), 10% (2nd.) and 20% (1st.) on top of their basic score. And add +2pts for victory in any division.
NOTE: values will be rounded up or down, meaning 16,5=17pts, or 19,2=19pts


Simulation of score sheats in case of multiple divisions

In case we do just one room, look at example #1, and so on...




This was the only way found (so far, at least) that is Flexible regarding fluctuating number of participants.
But at same time Fair to drivers in lower divisions in case we have (let say) 20 drivers and split them in 2rooms*10 drivers.
Points would go then from 1 to 20 - with additional bonuses for top 3 finishers in BOTH ROOMS.

(In case of FIXED scoring there could be enormous gap in points between 10th.place in div1. and winner in div2... this way points can be distibuted much more fairly.)

LINK na prvenstvo --------> PROHIBITION DAYS "1" - "Emperor's Cup"+"Hot Hatch Championship"

LINK na prvenstvo 2 ------> PROHIBITION DAYS "2" - "500 Best Reasons"+"Rally Championship"

Cilj je stvoriti nekakvu suradnju i međusobno povjerenje... Prijave su dobrodošle, a bilo bi najbolje čak da se javite na GT Surgeons forum...

Također, mora se napomenuti da je za cijeli ovaj projekt zaslužan naš FEDRO, puno energije i truda je utrošio da bi uspio u ovome. I uspjeh je neizbježan! Radi tako veliki korak za sva sljedeća prvenstva, pa čak i diže granice standarda za GT6. KAPA DOLJE!

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #10 u: Studeni 18, 2012, 12:10:28 »
Prije svega, naklon do poda Fedri koji je mozak svega ovoga. Njegova mašta, volja, trud i upornost su vanzemaljskih proporcija. I upravo tako kako si i sam rekao iced, uspjeh je neizbježan! Istotako, čestitke idu Safety-_-Caru i tebi, koji si mi puno olakšao posao ovdje, hvala još jednom!

Upoznati ste otprije kako se nešto kuha po pitanju velikog natjecanja ali niste, siguran sam, očekivali ovakvo nešto.

Cilj svega ovoga je upoznavanje s članovima drugih foruma, razmjena mišljenja, stavova i gradnja solidnih temelja za nastavak suradnje kroz utrkivanja onog dana kad dođe nova nova generacija konzola i naravno, GT6. Neki od tih foruma su iznimno cijenjeni u svijetu, po svojoj ljubavi, strasti prema GT5, a neki su članovi tih foruma bili i na GT:Academyju, te su došli veoma daleko u pravom automobilizmu. Smatram to velikom gestom i s tim ciljevima se ne može promašiti. Ovo NIKAKO nije promocija drugog foruma. Navedeni je forum organizator i idejni nosilac svega ovoga, uz pomoć drugih foruma i ljudi, pa se zato i spominje. Ovim putem se prezentira vlastiti forum na najljepši mogući način, kroz organizaciju, međusobno poštivanje, druženje i utrkivanje, koje, vidite, pada u drugi plan.

Kroz sistem utrka, pravila, regulacija i smjernica natjecanja nema smisla pisati - sve se da shvatiti. Da citiram Fedru: ,, Ideja je da svi forumi naizmjenično dobiju priliku organizirati ovo isto natjecanje za sve ostale forume. Jedina iznimka je da forum koji pobijedi time osvaja priliku još jednog dodatnog "domaćinstva" ovog prvenstva - ali samo jedan dodatni put, a zatim mora pričekati dok i svi ostali forumi dobiju barem jednu priliku organizirati, bez obzira koliko puta u međuvremenu pobijedio.  Na taj način ipak svi dobivamo priliku iskusiti što više posebnosti svakog od foruma koji se poželi priključiti."

Oni koji su shvatili što je prava stvar, koji su zainteresirani neka se jave meni, pa ću predstaviti CSR forum drugim forumima.
Moram naglasiti da su ova dva mini prvenstva pripremna, dakle, služe samo za uvid u to kako bi to moglo izgledati kad se broj sudionika poveća.
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline rima706

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #11 u: Studeni 18, 2012, 20:28:26 »
Moram priznat da bi moglo izledat veoma dobro ovo natjecanje. Posebno zanimljiv ce mislim bit roster vozaca.
Mene trenutacno zanima dali se moze prijavit za pojedine utrke, posto "neke" staze nemam.
Sve pohvale organizatorima kojima zelim velik odaziv fp vozaca i da se ovo pretvori u respektabilno medjunarodno natjecanje.

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #12 u: Studeni 18, 2012, 22:08:34 »
Hvala na lijepim željama hug1

Možeš se prijaviti za neke utrke, možeš za sve, a možeš i za jednu! Nisi obvezan doći ni na jednu, iako si se prijavio. Zašto? Ipak je ovo pripremno prvenstvo kroz koje će proći velik broj vozača kadt1kažem
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline DogZy

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #13 u: Studeni 20, 2012, 08:49:39 »
OBAVIJEST

S današnjim danom počinje set utrka koje će se održavati svakog utorka i petka dok se ne potroše svi auti i staze.
Rima, hoćeš li prezentirati CSR forum već danas? sm1jeh šofe1
You are aiming for just one sweet spot in the corner. It's the point where centrifugal and cornering forces reach their equilibrium, where they are all at once replaced with acceleration.
APEX - The invisible vertex of a corner, a place where the fastest lap times are recorded.

Offline rima706

Odg: Moguće međuforumsko natjecanje ("New racing series")
« Odgovori #14 u: Studeni 20, 2012, 13:50:00 »
Koliko sam skuzio danas bi mogao vozit drugu utrku tj. Hot Hatch Championship posto tu stazu imam.
Ali nikako ne mogu saznat kad pocinju utrke, jedino mogu procjenit da ce ova druga pocet oko sat vremena poslje prve.
Pa bi volio da mi javis sto prije.